RIMS and HERMS Systems: explained and compared

Homebrewers love acronyms, but sometimes these timesaving abbreviations can overwhelm someone new to homebrewing or one looking to make changes in their homebrewing techniques. Two of these acronyms are RIMS and HERMS, which are made even more complicated because they are not completely clear even after you know their meaning! These two terms are closely related processes, so let’s tackle them together.
 

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RIMS is an acronym for “Recirculating Infusion Mash System” and HERMS is an acronym for “Heat Exchange Recirculating Mash System”. So now you completely understand, right? No? OK! No problem, I will explain further.
First let’s talk about the similarities.
Both systems:

  • Recirculate wort using a pump
  • Incorporate a heat source to heat wort.
  • Continuously pull wort out of your mash tun and put it back in at a slightly warmer temperature so you maintain a constant temperature during your mash (with an exception noted under RIMS below.

So, what’s the difference?

  • HERMS – Uses a HLT (hot liquor tank), which is normally another kettle with a coil inside that has an outlet and an inlet. You heat up the water in the HLT, have the wort flow out of the mash tun (fancy name for another kettle), into the coil in the HLT and then back into the mash tun (recirculating). This coil is sitting in a hot water bath inside the HLT and this warms the wort up before returning it to the mash tun. If you currently brew you have likely used a wort chiller. Think of this as a wort chiller in reverse. They function the same way except instead of putting the cooled wort into a fermenter you are returning heated wort back into the mash tun in a continuous recirculation.
  • RIMS – Uses a heating element that comes directly in contact with the wort. You are bringing wort out of the mash tun, running it directly over a heating element and returning it to the mash tun (just as you do with a HERMS system).
    • There is another way to create a RIMS system. You can apply direct heat to the bottom of your kettle and circulate your wort rapidly to keep it from scorching. This is how many of the the new “all in one” five-gallon semi-automated systems work. Examples would be the Grain Father, Anvil Foundry, and Robobrew

Basically, they do the same thing. First, let’s talk about the advantage they both hold over all grain brewing systems like a cooler type system. Then we can go over advantages and disadvantages between the RIMS and HERMS.

  • Both systems do an excellent job of keeping your temperature consistent during a brew. This is important in-order to get the results you are looking for in a recipe. By having this  consistency you will  be able to make minor changes in mash temperature from batch to batch until you find the perfect mash temperature combinations for the recipe you are brewing (different temperatures effect different enzymes, which change the character of the beer, the two most important being the Beta-Amylase and Alpha-Amylase)
  • Consistency from batch to batch is very high with these systems. Because they maintain temperature so well you are not as affected by ambient temperature. In a cooler system if the temperature in which your cooler is located changes from one batch to another the wort can have a different temperature range during the mash, even if you start the mash with the same temperature. With a circulating system you maintain the temperature consistently regardless of outside influences (within reason).
  • Mash schedules or “step mashing” are possible with these systems. This is much more difficult to do with a cooler system. You can rest your mash at Beta and then raise it into Alpha in order to gain characteristics that both enzymes produce.
  • Both systems are continuously passing wort through the grain bed, so they tend to produce a clearer wort and eventually a clearer beer.
  • Many people find they also gain efficiency when switching to these systems.

So, which should you use?  That is a great question and one that has been argued by many homebrewers. If you don’t believe me, look at the subject on forums and you will see pages and pages of arguments for and against both systems. What most people would probably agree on is that either is better than other systems available. They are the top tier brewing systems. They both work great, but RIMS systems carry the risk of scorching the grain if your pump slows down or stops completely (stuck mash or pump failure). The RIMS system may be a little more effective in step mashing as you can normally change temperature a little faster, but both can be used for step mashing.
The only real “disadvantage” of these systems is that they are expensive! A cooler system is much more affordable and will still give you a great batch of beer. A great example of this system would be the Cooler Brew All Grain Brewing System. For those that can afford them, RIMS and HERMS systems are hard to beat. I hope this explanation was helpful!

Intro to reverse osmosis and brewing better beer

Beer is traditionally made from four ingredients- malt, hops, yeast, and water.   While we all pay careful attention to our malt choices, the character of the hops, and selection of yeast– but don’t often consider the water.   Since beer is 90% water, it is a crucial ingredient in brewing. If your tap water is full of chlorine, alkaline (leaving scale on the fixtures), has an odor, or you don’t know what is in it, purchasing your own reverse osmosis machine can be a wise choice.
Home RO systems are common in many households for making coffee, using in aquariums, for drinking water and homebrewers are also finding them indispensable.

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Reverse osmosis (RO) is a simple water filtration process.   Dissolved solids and sediment are removed from the water by the water flowing through a filter and then through a semipermeable membrane.   This process removes most ions and dissolved solids, including iron, fluoride, chlorine, and reduces bicarbonate by great percentage.  The result is water that is very low in minerals and alkalinity, nearly the same as distilled water quality in most cases.
Some beer styles are suited to using the RO water as is, such as Czech lagers, but while any style can be made with 100% RO water, most other styles will benefit with some simple additions for best flavor.  These additions are called “brewing salts” and the most common ones are gypsum, calcium chloride, epsom salts, chalk, sodium chloride, and baking soda.   These are available at the homebrew supply store, or can sometimes be found at your grocery market.
For brewers who are looking for an “easy button” with RO water, use 4 grams (approximately one teaspoon) of calcium chloride for each 5 gallons of brewing water.   For hoppy beers, add 7 grams of gypsum to your brewing water with the calcium chloride.
If you are just starting out with RO water and water additions, having gypsum, calcium chloride and baking soda on hand is adequate.  Epsom salt, which brings magnesium to the water as well as sulfate, is generally not needed in most cases.
This list shows most of the salts you will see in recipes and in homebrew stores:

  • Gypsum (CaSO4 or calcium sulfate) is used in the water to bring in calcium and sulfate. It is a white powder.
  • Calcium chloride (Pickle crisp or CaCl2) is used to add calcium as well as chloride. It is a white powder that is highly hygroscopic; that is, it absorbs moisture from the air easily so should be kept in small amounts in tightly sealed containers.
  • Epsom salt (MgSO4 or magnesium sulfate) is used for the magnesium and sulfate contribution.
  • Table salt (NaCl2 or sodium chloride) brings sodium and chloride to the water. Non iodized salt is available in grocery stores for this purpose.
  • Chalk (CaC03 or calcium carbonate) has been traditionally used in the past as a way to raise mash pH in cases where it may be needed. However, it doesn’t dissolve well without extraneous measures and is to be avoided by most brewers.
  • Baking soda (NaHCO3) can be used in those rare cases where the mash pH should be raised.

Now that we’ve listed what the salts are, we can talk about what they do and why they are added to the brewing water.
Calcium:  Calcium is the primary ion that determines hardness of the water.  It helps with slightly lowering the pH during mashing, facilitates precipitations of proteins in the boil (hot break), enhances yeast flocculation, and assists in preventing beerstone.  Many lagers are made with very low levels of calcium, so it is not required but can be helpful in the amounts 50-100 parts per million (ppm) and that is usually the recommended amount.   You can get calcium by using calcium chloride or calcium sulfate (gypsum).
Magnesium:  Also responsible for providing hardness to the water, magnesium can provide a sour/bitter flavor to the beer in amounts of 30 ppm or more.  It has a laxative effect in much larger amounts.  Malt provides all of the magnesium required for yeast health, so it is not required as an addition unless adding sulfate in the presence of a high calcium level (using epsom salts, or MgSO4).
Sulfate: Sulfate is the ion that is used to accentuate hop bitterness by enhancing the dryness of the finish.  Additions are normally avoided in continental lagers or only used in small amounts,  often 30 ppm or less.  In most ales the ideal amount is 30-70 ppm.  For highly hopped beers, the desired sulfate level may be much higher: 150-300 ppm for IPAs or west coast APAs.  That amount will make the finish seem more crisp and dry.  If using 150 ppm or higher, the chloride level should be under 50 ppm to avoid a “minerally” finish to the beer.  Sulfate comes from calcium sulfate (gypsum) or magnesium sulfate (Epsom salt)
Chloride:  Chloride accentuates a fullness or “roundness” of flavor in the beer, enhancing the malt sweetness.   It is generally used in the 40-100 ppm range in many beers, but in the New England IPA style, the chloride is often over 100 ppm, up to 150 ppm.  Chloride is added via calcium chloride most usually, but table salt (sodium chloride) can be used as well.
Sodium:  Sodium rounds out the malt flavors, and can be used in modest amounts (under 150 ppm).  A higher concentration can make the beer taste salty, and having a high sodium combined with a high sulfate level can create a harsh bitterness.  It is generally recognized that keeping the sodium at 0-60 is a safe bet.  Using brewing water sourced from a water softener is to be avoided because of the high sodium softeners impart, until after it passes through the RO machine.
Bicarbonate: Bicarbonate plays a huge role in water chemistry for brewing.  It raises the pH of the mash, so should be kept under 50 ppm for pale/light colored beers.  An amber colored beer could use a bicarbonate amount of up to 150 ppm (depending on the grainbill).  A very dark beer with roasted grains (like a stout) could easily go up to 200 ppm or even a bit more, as more bicarbonate is needed to balance the acidity of the dark roasted malts.  As such, there is no ideal range for mashing water except that what is needed to achieve an appropriate mash pH.  In sparge water, low bicarbonate water is desired to avoid tannin extraction from the grain.   So even when making a stout, using 100% RO water for sparging is ideal.
There are brewing spreadsheets and books available to help you decide where to target your ideal concentrations of those ions.  We have given you give a range, and it is recommended to stay at the lower end of the range until you know what you like.   “Less is more” applies with water additions, as too much of a brewing salt can make a beer harsh and unappealing.   Using a brewing water spreadsheet (there are free ones on the internet, including this one) is the easiest way to determine the ppm (parts per million) of your additions.  There is a default entry for RO water, making it even easier to use.
One way to see what these brewing salts may do to your beer is to simply try it.  When you pour a glass  of your beer, add a dash of table salt to it to see what chloride brings out.  Next time, perhaps add a pinch of gypsum, to see what that brings to the beer.
Adding the salts is done in very small amounts, typically grams.  While it can be converted to other measurements, the amounts are generally very small so a scale that weighs to grams and/or tenths of a gram is very helpful.   A small inexpensive scale is a good tool to have.
Starting with a good recipe and using good water will make a very good beer.  Tweaking the recipe by adding some gypsum and calcium chloride (as examples) may take that very good beer to very, very good or even excellent beer.  Starting with a great base and adding your brewing salts in the right amounts can take it to the next level.  Adding too much is more of a danger than too little, so be aware of that in your additions as you start adjusting your water.
If you’re not sure where to start with water additions, a good basic “all purpose” water profile may be perfect.   A balanced water profile like this would work well for most styles of beer:
Calcium:       75 ppm
Magnesium:  0-10 ppm (more or less, but under 25 ppm)
Sodium:        0-50 ppm
Sulfate:            50-70
Chloride          50-70
Once you feel comfortable with adding these brewing salts to your water, you will find that using RO water is the easiest way to create a blank slate in which to begin your brew.  With an ideal base, your beer will have a solid foundation to build your recipe on.   Quality beer starts with great water.

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What to do with stuck fermentation and does dry hopping affect reusing yeast — Ep. 142

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Fan favorite Ladik Joe Ermis joins me to discuss YOUR questions about stuck fermentation and how dry hopping may affect your yeast (if you save it for future use). Joe is the Director of Operations at HomebrewSupply.com and has been brewing for a long time so I always appreciate when he’s willing to come on the show and share his knowledge and passion for home brewing!

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Lagering a Kölsch and making a yeast starter directly in the bucket — Ep. 141

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Todd is back! Man, if I had a nickel for every “Todd is back!” intro I had to write over the years for this show, I’d have a lot of nickels. Dude is always doing something – busy guy! Anyway, the bummer though is that James couldn’t be on this week’s show because his computer took a dump last week… but, fear not, we’ll all be on together again very soon and actually have a very fun episode planned for next week as we get to have our German buddy from CMB, Stephan Becker, back on the show!

On this week’s show, Todd and I discuss one of my favorite styles in the world, the Kölsch! Specifically, we tackle a question regarding the lagering process and, believe it or not, Todd doesn’t get angry at me as I fawn over Kölsch all episode long. We also take a question on making a starter in a unique way; directly in the fermenataion vessel that this person is going to end us using (bucket or carboy). Neither one of us had even considered this method but it was actually a lot of fun to discuss!

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Switching from gas to electric brewing and cold fermentation equipment recommendations — Ep. 140

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We’re back on schedule with another Q&A show for your listening pleasure. Todd, believe it or not, is OUT again… Side note — some of you are starting to think we left him in Rhode Island and are concerned for his well being, but I can reassure you that none of us are the beneficiaries of any type of insurance policy on him so we have no reason to have left him behind! Kidding aside — he’s actually doing manual labor as you’re reading this, fixing up things he’s been putting off and so he couldn’t be bothered to hang with us… ANYWAY

James is a saint and joins me today to discuss a couple of equipment-centric questions. James, as you probably already know, is a wealth of knowledge and I love these 1-on-1 shows we get to do together every now and then because I don’t have to worry about getting interrupted by Todd! 🙂

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Homebrewer Showcase: Hanging out with my Pop! — Ep. 139

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Can you believe that we’re publishing TWO episodes this week? WOWZERS! No… actually, I felt really bad that we didn’t publish a proper episode last week (when we were at HomebrewCon) nor did we publish one a couple of weeks ago (when I was sick)… so, Happy Birthday America!

For this week, I sit down with my brew partner and one of my best friends – my Dad! It worked out since I was already hanging out with him for our 4th of July celebrations so I just set up the microphones and decided to discuss our brewing history together and what’s coming up for us. I may have also side-tracked a bunch but… to be fair… that isn’t abnormal for this show!

So, please enjoy this special one-off episode with me and my Pop.

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HomebrewCon 2019 RECAP EPISODE — Ep. 138

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We’re BACK (that’s two “BACK”s in all caps already so you know it’s gonna be a good show) from Providence, Rhode Island and here to discuss the fun we had at HomebrewCon 2019! TL;DR version: it rocked. Longer version: we had such an amazing time meeting more members of the homebrewing community and also connecting with the TONS of YOU who showed up and stopped by our booth. It was incredibly humbling and encouraging to meet you all and receive your feedback and support of the show. Honestly – I joke all the time but I can’t thank you enough for making this podcast my favorite thing to do with my time.

So, yeah. This episode is literally a beginning-to-end recap of our time in Rhode Island where we discuss what we loved about HomebrewCon, and what we are looking forward to next year in Nashville! Since Nashville is a more centralized location, we hope that even MORE of you can make it out and hang out with us (and, really – drink all the beer we bring).

I know I’m happy to be home though and excited to share with you about our experiences on today’s episode.

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Catching up with The Brewer of Seville — Ep. 137


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You may have noticed (and I’m assuming you did based on the hundreds of comments, emails, or social media messages lol) that we didn’t publish an episode last week. First — I am very sorry for that! We usually record on Thursdays and we’ve been so swamped getting our stuff together for HomebrewCon and then I got terribly sick mid-week last week so we didn’t get to record at all. Second — we still had to get the booth packed so, in my sickened stupor, I packed all of our mobile podcast gear without thinking that we needed it for this week’s show! I know, friend… I know.

THANKFULLY, I have all of my studio set up ready to go and our buddy Kenny Highman (aka – The Brewer of Seville) agreed on short notice to come on the show!

So, join Kenny and I as we talk about the upcoming HomebrewCon in Rhode Island, what he’s been up to, his recent GRAND PRIZE WINNING beer label from Brew Your Own Magazine, and lots more. I had a genuine blast with Kenny and I am so happy he was able to hang out!

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